posted 03-31-2000 07:26 PM            

This is for anyone looking for stimulating conversation. Let's talk about Euthenasia or Youth in America, or we can talk about the latest intelligent book you have read. We can discuss why no one on the face of the planet is not going back to the moon. Kind of strange, don't you think. What do you think of "intelligent life" on other planets. Whatever, but keep your comments on the upwards of a 100 IQ.

posted 04-01-2000 02:38 AM            

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posted 04-01-2000 04:12 PM            

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posted 04-01-2000 08:59 PM            

To me, that's a bunch of bull-cocky.

posted 04-01-2000 09:05 PM            

120 million isn't a bad number. How many people live in the US altogether**? And we know how dumb Americans are. Americans have a holiday that celebrates Christopher Colombus.

posted 04-01-2000 09:46 PM            

If you are 14-16, like heath said, having a baby will drastically change and disrupt every aspect of your life. Just being pregnant may do its harm in that way. Activists say stuff. "It was their mistake, now they can learn from it." But, the scare of being pregnant will get them thinking and will definately change their sexual routine. Or it should.

And also, ponder the thought if the pregnancy was the result of a rape. They can't help the attack. While most rape victims are normally people who are "looking for it" (short skirts and skimpy clothing at a party, or similar story), there are still some who are intelligent, and have plans for themselves, who are just walking down the sidewalk to their apartment, and get abducted by a man standing in the bushes, taken to a second location, raped, and impregnated. Not only is her life, and possiblity, her mental state changed by the rape, but she is now pregnant. Who would have the nerve to tell her it's illegal to have an abortion, and she had to have the baby. She could get it done illegally still, but police and the hospital know she got pregnant, and when they find out she's not pregnant anymore, what can she do? She can say she had a miscarriage, but that might not help at all.

Now that's a lot of rambling.

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posted 04-01-2000 10:23 PM         

All I can say is what the hell is that Drane? Just because somebody is dressed provocative does not mean they are asking to be raped! Are you implying that if they are dressed revaling they are not intelligent and don't have plans for themselves? Rape is never o.k. and no girl would ever ask to be raped.

posted 04-02-2000 12:09 AM            

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posted 04-02-2000 12:48 AM         

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Originally posted by piff:
If you're impregnated simply because you can't control your horomones or are an idiot then you shouldn't have the choice of an abortion. Of course ultimately its the choice of the mother either way.

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I agree. I don't know what to say though. If a teenager has a child they should put it up for adoption, not abort it. It is the choice of the mother though. I don't know how I would feel though if the father wanted to keep the child and the mother didn't. Our world is alredy so over populated though but abortion should not be a form of birth control like some people have made it out to be.

posted 04-03-2000 06:03 PM            

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Originally posted by tom:
Anne, drane wasn't actually implying that anyone is asking to be raped. He used quotes around "looking for it" to signify that it's an idea others hold. Some very conservative types believe that no girl should dress revealingly or it's her fault for getting raped. Drane was just saying that even if you believe that - there are still plenty of girls who get raped while just minding their own business.

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Danke, Tom. I was just about to explain what I meant, but you seem to have covered it.

Although, I must say, many rapes are because of provocative dress or "hooking up" with someone at a club/party, no matter if they're stupid or intelligent.

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posted 04-03-2000 11:47 PM            

What is wrong with your logic? Abortion! Have any of you ever been pregnant? Do you have any CLUE of what it takes for a teenager or anybody at any stage of their life to go to what is usually a small doctors office and tell this stranger that you would like to get rid of the life that you have living inside of you because you were raped or the condom broke? Then to walk to an even smaller room where there is a chair that you sit back in with your legs on top of cold sterile stirrups and then have a machine with a hose attached to it that will be inserted into your body so that it can "suck" out the fetus. Get a clue or least buy one, if you think that going through an abortion is a simple proceedure without any adverse psychological affects, think again; by putting a girl or woman through such a tremondous horror, don't think that the "problem" of pregnancy have gone away. Because the real problem is not the pregnancy, but the way the girl/woman feels about herself. IF you are not ready to take care of a life, don't get in the bed.

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posted 04-04-2000 04:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Gearhead:
What is wrong with your logic? Abortion! Have any of you ever been pregnant? Do you have any CLUE of what it takes for a teenager or anybody at any stage of their life to go to what is usually a small doctors office and tell this stranger that you would like to get rid of the life that you have living inside of you because you were raped or the condom broke? Then to walk to an even smaller room where there is a chair that you sit back in with your legs on top of cold sterile stirrups and then have a machine with a hose attached to it that will be inserted into your body so that it can "suck" out the fetus. Get a clue or least buy one, if you think that going through an abortion is a simple proceedure without any adverse psychological affects, think again; by putting a girl or woman through such a tremondous horror, don't think that the "problem" of pregnancy have gone away. Because the real problem is not the pregnancy, but the way the girl/woman feels about herself. IF you are not ready to take care of a life, don't get in the bed.

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Yes, having the procedure is simpler, IN RELATIVITY.

I would imagine (I'm not a woman) that talking to a doctor who has done it before, maybe even a hundred times before, and saying "I have a child I would like to abort," is easier than going to your parents, friends, and other close family, and saying "I got in bed with a guy from a party last night... (or) I got raped on 54th and 3rd last night... and now im pregnant."

And after that you still have to raise the child, at a time when you can't handle it, while trying to maintain a "regular life." You will have to impose on your parents/friends/family to babysit for you once in awhile, reminding you of the guilt you're already burdening yourself with about having the child and making the mistake. Then five or ten years down the road, after you think you're almost over it, you have to explain to your child what happened, because he/she has a few questions "about daddy."

Not saying you wont have problems after the abortion takes place, of course. You may have to explain what happened to a few people, or even a possible husband, but those situations are not as complicated or severe as the ones previously mentioned.

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posted 04-04-2000 06:19 PM            

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